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Matt Locker

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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 29, 2007 4:36 pm

AJ was used as a jobber on WWF Metal a few years ago, and he was superb. Joe, I don't think he would fit the WWE. He reminds me of Tazz back in the day. Tazz was very good in ECW, but he didn't fit in well when he went to WWE and he never got pushed as a major player. Joe is amazing in TNA (better than Tazz ever was), but he wouldn't be able to lift most of the the guys in WWE. Joe is too big to be a cruiserweight, but he's too small to be an intimidating dominator in the heavyweight division. He'd be stuck in the mid-card because of his his size and his look. I'd rather him stay in TNA where they let him work well and he fits in.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 29, 2007 5:39 pm

Oh comeon... I can easily imagine WWE using Joe. He would be the same as almost every other Samoan, the wild savage.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 29, 2007 6:30 pm

Except he's 3 inches shorter and 40 pounds lighter than their other wild Samoans. He's just too small to be pushed as a Samoan destroyer.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Nov 29, 2007 10:48 pm

Matt does have a point
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 30, 2007 5:45 am

The Head Shrinkers weren't huge and they used that angle.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 30, 2007 4:22 pm

Samu was billed as 6'4" 260 and Fatu was 6'1" and was well over 300 lbs. Joe is about 5'10" 275 lbs.

Joe isn't a small dude, but almost every heavyweight on the roster will be taller than him, and many will be heavier. He won't be able to intimidate the way he does in TNA. Plus, in WWE he probably wouldn't be allowed to use a lot of his best moves. I think Joe is awesome, and I'd just prefer that he stay in TNA and have good matches and get high-profile feuds.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 30, 2007 4:28 pm

I hate in WWE there not lettig people do piledrivers unless they have expressed permission, but in TNA they can do flipping pilerivers WWE is going downhill if you ask me.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Nov 30, 2007 4:50 pm

Yeah, WWE tends to limit the risk their wrestlers take. It kinda makes sense though when you consider the grueling schedule the wrestlers are required to keep.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Dec 01, 2007 9:35 pm

It makes sense, but I still don't like it. It would be impractical to let guys go all out all the time as there would be injuries all the time.

One of the biggest problems with WWE is that they have so many big guys who can't work good matches. A few monsters is a good thing, but not when they suck and can't sell simple moves properly. That's one of the best things about TNA, their big guys are significantly smaller than WWE's and they are all at least solid workers. Because of the size of a lot of WWE's guys, small guys can't do a lot of things and are severely limited. If you look at the Cruiserweight division, they could have great matches there, but either Vince or Michael Hayes has no interest in the cruisers. It's a shame really.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Dec 02, 2007 11:24 pm

still how often do TNA superstars get injured compared to WWE superstars?
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 03, 2007 6:18 am

From what I can tell they get injured less. I think it really helps that they only wrestle something like 5-8 times a month (unless they are working indies like a lot of them do). Injuries in wrestling is an inevitable risk. The wrestlers know what they are getting in to but they go out there anyway to entertain us and because they love what they do. Why not let them go out and give it what they've got as long as they feel comfortable doing so?
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Dec 03, 2007 10:59 pm

so they get injured less do riskier moves while WWE will now only let the Undertaker do a piledriver on a regular basis
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 05, 2007 1:47 am

Since 2007 is close to being over, why don't we do end of year awards for WWE and TNA.

WWE

Best ring work:

Best mic work:

Best entrance:

Best tag-team:

Best match:

Best feud/rivalry:

Newcomer of the year:

Diva of the year:

Superstar of the year:


TNA

Best ring work:

Best mic work:

Best entrance:

Best tag-team:

Best match:

Best feud/rivalry:

Newcomer of the year:

Knockout of the year:

Wrester of the year:
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 05, 2007 2:08 am

WWE

Best ring work:
Uh...this is awkward, but I'll seperate it into two halves...first half of the year, Chris Benoit. Second half of the year, Randy Orton.
Best mic work:
Mr. Kennedy
Best entrance:
Chris Jericho
Best tag-team
Paul London & Brian Kendrick
Best match:
Triple H vs. Randy Orton, Last Man Standing
Best feud/rivalry:
Batista & The Undertaker
Newcomer of the year:
M.V.P
Diva of the year:
Mickie James
Superstar of the year:
Batista

TNA

Best ring work:
AJ Styles/Samoa Joe...I can't choose just one, sorry.
Best mic work:
Kurt Angle
Best entrance:
Eric Young
Best tag-team:
LAX
Best match:
Chris Harris vs. James Storm, Texas Death Match
Best feud/rivalry:
Sting vs. Kurt Angle
Newcomer of the year:
He isn't really a newcomer, but he had a breakout year...Jay Lethal
Knockout of the year:
Gail Kim
Wrester of the year:
This is the hardest one for me. Angle did a great job, Christian Cage was brilliant, as were AJ and Joe...but I'm going to go with Abyss. He sacrifices so much for the fans. It's amazing that he does some of the stuff he does.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 05, 2007 2:50 am

WWE

Best ring work:
Undertaker
Best mic work:
Mr Kennedy
Best entrance:
Edge
Best tag-team:
Degeneration X
Best match:
Undertaker Vs Batista Unforgiven
Best Moment:
HBK Sweet Chin Musicing Orton on his return (Beard and All)
Best feud/rivalry:
Orton Cena
Newcomer of the year:
Unfortunaly I've got to admit MVP
Diva of the year:
Mickie James for sure
Superstar of the year:
Uhhh this I probably would have to say Batista
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 05, 2007 3:39 am

WWE

Best ring work:
William Regal, totally underrated in the ring- or Matt Hardy

Best mic work:
DX - more laughs than anyone else

Best entrance:
HBK when he hit Orton with sweet chin music

Best tag-team:
DX (i know its starting to sound like a dx love in, but they are top of the tree)

Best match:
Edge v Mick Foley - in that hard core match (I think it was early this year)

Best feud/rivalry:
Undertaker - Batista

Newcomer of the year:
Does Jericho count?

Diva of the year:
Maria

Superstar of the year:
Undertaker


TNA

Best ring work:
AJ styles

Best mic work:
Angle

Best entrance:
Sting

Best tag-team:
Styles and Tomko

Best match:
Styles v Samoa Joe v Christopher Daniels

Best feud/rivalry:
Angle v's Everyone

Newcomer of the year:
Relic

Knockout of the year:
Chrissy Hemmey

Wrester of the year:
AJ Styles
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 05, 2007 5:09 am

WWE

Best ring work:
Jeff Hardy

Best mic work:
Chris Jericho

Best entrance:
Chris Jericho

Best tag-team:
The Hardyz

Best match:
Triple H vs. Randy Orton, Last Man Standing (No Mercy)

Best feud/rivalry:
Batista & The Undertaker

Newcomer of the year:
Umaga

Diva of the year:
Mickie James

Superstar of the year:
Randy Orton


TNA

Best ring work:
AJ styles

Best mic work:
Angle

Best entrance:
Sting

Best tag-team:
Team 3D

Best match:
Styles v Samoa Joe v Christopher Daniels

Best feud/rivalry:
Angle v's Samoa Joe

Newcomer of the year:
Relic

Knockout of the year:
Gail Kim

Wrester of the year:
Christian Cage
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 05, 2007 12:41 pm

Royal Pain wrote:

Best match:
Edge v Mick Foley - in that hard core match (I think it was early this year)

That was wrestlemania 22 fool lol
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 12, 2007 1:47 am

What did you guys think of the 15th Anniversary RAW?

Who was your favorite cameo, what was your favorite moment, your least favorite moment, etc.

My favorite cameo was probably RVD because I wasn't expecting it. I knew Lita, Trish, Sunny, Austin, and Foley would be there. Most of the others weren't really anything special. It was nice to see RVD again. I hope he makes an actual return sometime next year.

Favorite moment is a tough one, but I thought the Kane/Lita interaction was very funny. I wasn't expecting that and it was a fun segment.

The worst segment for me was Vince...he just isn't very entertaining. We all knew he was going to say he was the #1 star of RAW, there was no need to drag it out that long and eat up so much of the show. Trish and Lita both got very big pops, but they didn't really do much because so much time was spent on Vince and Hornswaggle. And Molly Holly! Molly Holly was there, and all she did was stand there by Mickie for a few seconds. It made me seriously mad. Mickie is the best diva in WWE right now, and Molly is one of the best of the last generation. I can't believe they didn't have a bigger role in the show. Well, there are a lot of people I could complain about not having a big enough role. I just think it's stupid to have so many people show up and then not have them do anything while Vince/Hornswaggle eat up an hour of the show and Triple H is in 14 segments. It's just really a shame. Okay, rant over.

The show was good, it could have been great, but it was good. Still the best RAW in a while.

Thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 12, 2007 1:07 pm

Hornswoggle cracks me up
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PostSubject: Re: WWE Discussion   WWE Discussion - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Dec 12, 2007 8:59 pm

Hornswaggle makes me laugh too, but he doesn't need to take that much TV time.
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